@ano, takedowns on its own do not score "points" unless it is a damaging takedown i.e. slam.
Taking down an opponent obviously makes him/her less mobile, so it is easier to implement effective striking and effective grappling (in theory). In other words, judges score takedowns WAY higher than they should. I blame announcers i.e. "he just stole the round with that takedown", and they are so easy to see, as opposed to "how damaging was that strike?"
Getting up from takedowns, defending take downs, and overall defense does not score "points" either.
Lets put it this way. If there was a soccer game and team A gets 10 shots on goal and scores once and team B gets no shots on goal who won? But team B saved 9 shots! So what. All defending does is prevent your opponent to score more "points" on you.
The argument I hear for people that think defense should be a factor is that it dictates octogon control, but the attacker is being more aggressive which is more important.
Hope that helps
P.s. I put "points" in quotes because their is no actual scoring system, a judges scorecard looks like this or some minor variation of it.
Sorry for the long explanation but thought it would help you understand (and yes I am a certified judge in case you wonder why I am stating my opinions as near facts)
anon (anonymous) 2 years ago
i agree with da draw....cu jardine got alot of takedowns but clearly got pickd apart on da feet by mousasi...it all depends on how da judges judge it but it was a pretty gud fight conserdering da damn ref stop like every 5min but jardine is always fun 2 watch
ano (anonymous) 2 years ago
I was thinking if there are points for take downs, should there not be points given for getting up from take downs ? especially when you get up right after the take down and the guy on top can't control you.
If it is about position and dictating where the fight happens then the guy who stands up from a take down is dictating the fight happens on the feet ?
Even in wrestling points are given if you reverse a take down and stand up, so wtf?
kidicarus (anonymous) 2 years ago
lol Jardine is a beast. He's the Clay Guida of 185.
SFrulesucks (anonymous) 2 years ago
wtf mousasi clearly won the fight!!!!
rob (anonymous) 2 years ago
haaha thats the funniest looking ref ever. I think he is keith jardine dad lolll i am keith jardine fanut he won the first but it was close and Gegard Mousasi won the second and for sure won the thrid i think he won by spilt decision and sinice the ref took a point it made a dram thats makes perfect since... jardine took the fight on 8 days notice that beast .... but i agree this was Gegard Mousasi fight to win... and the ref suckes because he gave no warning he jst took a point away real fast and i am pretty sure Gegard Mousasi did it on accident..
Cosmo (anonymous) 2 years ago
Mousasi deserved this bad decision, because for thee rounds he was absolutely incompetent to finish a decade older guy attending a very short notice in his way down to 185 lb. Jardine is a warrior. What a heart.
BEZROK (anonymous) 2 years ago
im a jardine fan but, sorry, he sucks
bass (anonymous) 2 years ago
jardine won the first round 10-8, 2nd was close and mousasi won the 3rd round. i think jardine won this fight by 1 point
milos (anonymous) 2 years ago
HORRIFIC decision by the judges,mousasi clearly WON the fight and had won it comforatly...the only reason Sardine didnt get ko was because of the fact he ran away from him the entire fight(WORSE THEN MACHIDA) with exeptions in the LOW LOOOOOOOOOOW clinch where he got 6 TD,so what?!!!he didnt do anyting with them he got up roughly about 5-10 secs every time and got him 2 times on the ground himself with 2 submission attempts and 145 strikes!!! LOL...