Neither Kimbo or Rogers are perticularly good at striking either. Both brawlers who would get knocked out against a decent stand up fighter. Just watch Overeem v Rogers he didnt stand a chance standing anymore than he would have on his back against Werdum the same goes even more for Kimbo

so many stand up guys (eg, good at boxing) are so weak at take down and on thier back, that they have not evolve..... take Kimbo or Rogers eg (Barnett went straight for take down) have all lost fight because other guys knew exactly how to fight them; the fight Toney with Shamrock, you will see a take down.....that's the strategy from the getgo!!

so many stand up guys (eg, good at boxing) are so weak at take down and on thier back, that they have not evolve..... take Kimbo or Rogers eg (Barnett went straight for take down) have all lost fight because other guys knew exactly how to fight them; the fight Toney with Shamrock, you will see a take down.....that's the strategy from the getgo!!